Rat and mice droppings: how to tell the difference – and what to do.

Found droppings in your coop but not sure whether they're from rats or mice?

Make no mistake: this is a rat. I didn't have anything to compare it with when I took the picture, but it was around six inches long.

Even then, I tried to convince myself it was a mouse. A little on the large side, I know, but I lived in hope.

Until I saw this ...

And then my heart sank, because I knew it had to be a rat.

How did I know?

Because...

The size of rat droppings is very different from mouse poop.

It's easy to tell the difference between an adult rat and a mouse: a rat is much bigger. But it can be very difficult to tell the difference between a mouse and a baby rat.

They're about the same size, and although there are subtle differences in shape and ear size, it's hard for a person without specialist knowledge to tell them apart.

The size of rat droppings is the giveaway.

They're bigger, quite long and more jelly-bean shaped, being blunt or rounded at each end, and a similar size⁽¹⁾.

Mouse droppings, on the other hand, look like little black grains of rice. They're much smaller and they're pointed at both ends⁽¹⁾.

This image, used with kind permission of Lewisham Borough Council, England, shows the difference clearly. Rat droppings are on the right, mouse on the left. The coin is a British penny, about the size of a small US cent.

They're different in the way they're deposited, too.

Mice tend to poop everywhere. They really don't care. You'll find their little 'parcels' all over work surfaces if they're in your kitchen, or sprinkled over coop and run areas if they're outside.

Rat droppings tend to be more isolated. Ironically, that's because rats have some sense of cleanliness which makes them use specific areas as a 'rat bathroom'. 

See how my single dropping above was by itself?

Can rat droppings cause problems for chickens and / or humans?

They certainly can, but probably not as much as you think. 

The droppings themselves won't, for example, cause you to contract Bubonic Plague – that was carried by fleas. And a rodent has to be infected itself before it can pass on any infection⁽²⁾.

But more often than not, rats and mice won't show any signs of being infected, so you won't know whether or not you're dealing with an infected animal.

For that reason, any rodent droppings and urine, whether rat or mouse, need to be taken seriously.

Most illnesses caused by rodents won't leave lasting damage in a normal, healthy individual.

But they can be very serious for vulnerable groups, such as the very old, the very young, people whose immune systems are low (for example because of cancer-related drug therapy) and pregnant women⁽²⁾. 

Here are some examples of the types of disease which can be carried by infected rats and mice.

It's important to emphasise the words "can be" and "infected" here and not to over-dramatise the scale of the problem. 

Not every rat or mouse will transmit these illnesses. Even if they do, not every chicken or every human will catch them.

However, it's much better to be safe than sorry.

Salmonella: you've probably heard of Salmonella, but you may not know that the bacteria Salmonellosis can be carried by rats and mice.

It's transmitted to chickens (and other birds) through dirty drinking water if it contains rodent faeces and / or urine. 

And rats in the coop will head for water containers.

Leptospirosis: contact with infected rat urine in straw, feed or water can cause the bacterial infection Leptospirosis, also known as Weil's Disease. 

In humans it can enter the body through broken skin or through mucus membranes, such as those found in the nose⁽³⁾.

Lymphocytic Choriomeningitis: common house mice are the carriers of a virus which causes Lymphocytic Choriomeningitis. It's found in the saliva, urine and droppings of infected rodents.

It's thought that around 5% of house mice in North America are carriers, although they won't necessarily show any signs of infection. It's most often contracted by breathing in dust when clearing away animal (or chicken) bedding⁽⁴⁾.

If you're not sure whether you have rats or mice, take precautions anyway whenever you're cleaning your coop. Cover your mouth with a mask (see below). 

How to get rid of rat droppings.

It should be obvious from the kinds of harm rodents and their droppings can do to your flock and your family that you do need to take care of this issue as soon as you become aware of it, by both getting rid of the droppings and getting rid of the rodents.

Here's what to do.

Step #1: get rid of the rodents.

Are there any specific precautions to be taken?

• Definitely. Firstly, put your flock into a separate area while you clean. You do not want your chickens breathing in infected dust.

• For yourself, use a mask like this one, particularly when clearing out bedding. 

• Don't worry if you don't have a commercially produced mask to hand. It's better to get rid of the excrement quickly rather than waiting until the shops open or you get a delivery. A scarf tied tightly round your nose and mouth will be effective in the short term.

• Use rubber or plastic gloves. We keep a stock of plastic surgical type gloves which can be thrown away after each use. If you want to re-use rubber gloves you'll need to disinfect them after every use.

• Use a shovel and keep it separate to any household or gardening tools. Disinfect it after use.

• Never, never pick up either mouse or rat droppings by hand. 

• Make sure you wash your hands thoroughly after you've finished. Use a good quality medicated hand sanitiser.

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Need more information about how to get rid of rats?

I have lots of information learned from bitter experience and from talking to and taking advice from experts.

These articles (click on the pictures) will tell you everything you need to know about dealing with rats in your chicken coop - and how to avoid them in the first place.

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